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;) Cheers [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 19:04, 12 March 2012 (MDT)
 
;) Cheers [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 19:04, 12 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Dragnet ==
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Learjet 24 on the left and 35 with fans on the right.
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Cheers [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 19:40, 12 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Guns ==
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Falcon XP Ultralight.
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cheers, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 19:56, 12 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Hangar X ==
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L29 is CX-LVN. Red Biplane is Pitts Special S2B (LV-RBW) and Yellow Experimental plane is One Design DR-107 (LV-X326).
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Yellow Biplane is Boeing Stearman Model 75 (LV-ZKU) and the white plane taken from the front is Lancair Super ES (CP-AD005). Ultralight with open cabin doors and red wings will be Rans S-12/14 Airaile (LV-UX048) Cheers. [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 21:12, 12 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Lost (TV Series) ==
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The tail section indicates DC-8.
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Cheers, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 22:48, 12 March 2012 (MDT)
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I don't agree with you, I'm afraid. The windows shapes and density doesn't match at all with DC-8. This is rather wide body airliner, Boeing very likely.[[User:Sixcyl|Sixcyl]] 00:17, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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You, re right Sixcyl, my bad. It has already been id, as wide body B777 of some fake airline. (Computer Generated)
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Greets, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 00:34, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== NCIS (TV Series) ==
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1st picture - LearJet 35/36 on runway.
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Picture with the coffin, S-3 Viking in the top right corner. Tail of C-130 - 99.9% C-130 Tango!
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Cheers, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 00:13, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Oligarkh ==
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Falcon 900.
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Cheers, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 00:25, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Bergerac ==
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Ep.3.08 Cessna 441 Conquest II, Cheers, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 01:21, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Crime Traveller ==
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Developed from Sopwith Camel - '''Sopwith Swallow''', [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 14:33, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Deadly Encounter ==
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Waco UPF-7, Cheers [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 16:35, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Kaijûtô no kessen: Gojira no musuko ==
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modified horizontal stabs.. Lockheed P-2 Neptune (Kawasaki P-2J), [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 17:18, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Knight and Day ==
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Bell Model 205, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 17:22, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== La morte viene dallo spazio ==
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1st picture is Titan I on launch pad. Atlas being launched on 2nd and 3rd picture. [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 17:39, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Magnum ==
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Yellow Piper Cub, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 18:06, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Mike Bassett: England Manager ==
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767-200 no doubt. 9/11 deja-vu... [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 18:11, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Mr. Jones ==
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1st unidentified is 757 and 2nd is Southwest 737 Classic >> 300, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 18:21, 13 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Sonda ==
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NASA aircraft is Grumman 698.[[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 17:11, 15 March 2012 (MDT)
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== That Was the Year: 1978 ==
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Tail rotor is of wrecked SA-330 Puma Helicopter. [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Wysokie Loty ==
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Aero 145, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 18:11, 15 March 2012 (MDT)
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== That Was the Year: 1978 ==
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Wrecked plane is South African Atlas Impala Mk.II. [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 23:00, 19 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Midsomer Murders ==
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Hawker Siddeley HS 125 and Piper Cherokee, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 23:15, 19 March 2012 (MDT)
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== The International ==
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If someone will help me verify this, I am quite certain the unidentified aircraft is in fact not CGI, but a Boeing 777. As seen in this photo I found from a google search of 777s landing,[http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/galleries/images/84071/500x400/boeing-777-landing-prior-to-sunrise.jpg Triple 7] it appears to be exact. I was unable to find a comparable photo to reference with the first shot [[User:drumaboy590|drumaboy590]] 0:17, 20 March 2012 (CST)
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Agreed.[[User:Sixcyl|Sixcyl]] 02:48, 24 March 2012 (MDT)
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I do not agree on this one. 777 has a different fuselage in the back, more like square-shaped and not round with APU as pictured here. Triple7 has a 6 wheeled bogie, etc. [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 18:27, 31 March 2012 (MDT)
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== That Was the Year: 1978 ==
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Wreck with single rotor blade visble is South African AF Alouette III. All wrecks are from Namibian/Angolan conflict. [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 11:16, 21 March 2012 (MDT)
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== 2012 ==
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Global Express 99.9%, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 11:17, 21 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Sonda ==
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helicopter model is Mi-10k and human powered airplane in last picture is Gossamer Albatross [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 18:09, 31 March 2012 (MDT)
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== Arne Dahl: Misterioso ==
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Eurocopter AS332 Super Puma, [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 17:10, 11 April 2012 (MDT)
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== The Shoes of the Fisherman ==
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That is not PeaceKeeper as suggested under the picture.
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That will be Naval Polaris Mk.3 or more precisely UGM-27C Polaris A3. [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 09:46, 19 April 2012 (MDT)
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== TheOrder (2001) ==
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Fake wing. Model made for movie purposes.[[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 06:37, 12 June 2012 (MDT)
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== 2012 ==
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Bombardier Global Express, Cheers [[User:RenoRacer|RenoRacer]] 06:38, 12 June 2012 (MDT)
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== Resident Evil: Afterlife ==
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Look at http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/330470.html <br>
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Despite the C-GIID registration (instead of N-GIID), I think we have found the real aircraft disguise with a false tail number.<br>
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Bellanca 8KCAB, C/N: 1025-2006.
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What about the yellow plane ?<br>
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Nearly the same thing...<br>
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??AKX could be this plane : http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/330466.html <br>
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With the canadian flag masked by a black touch.<br>
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If yes, it's a Zenair ZENITH CH200, C/N: A-53.<br>
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Please note that these two planes are based in Ontario.<br>
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The twin engine just behind the actress is a Beech 55 Baron, isn't it ?
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[[User:LVCDC|LVCDC]] 22 june 2012
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== The New Avengers (1st picture) ==
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Fuji FA-200-180AO Aero Subaru<br>
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http://www.airliners.net/photo/Fuji-FA-200-180AO-Aero/1610212/L/<br>
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http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:FA200180AO.jpg <br>
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[[User:LVCDC|LVCDC]] 22 june 2012
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== Out for a Kill ==
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Probably a Gulfstream III or IV. [[User:LVCDC|LVCDC]] 27 July 2012
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== Movie : Amelia ==
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First unidentified aircraft could be a Bellanca Pacemaker
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== Aviateurs, 75 ans d'aventures ==
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[[Image:A75AZVA.jpg|thumb|200px|none|]]
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The first man is Édouard Daladier who is well known for his flight to Munich at the end of september 1938, done with the Bloch 220 F-AOHJ but the karman visible is not from this plane.<br>
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'''Lockheed Model 14 Super Electra'''  G-AFGN was then used by Chamberlain (but why 2 frenchmen are coming out from it ?). It could be too the Air France same type of aircraft used on other circumstances (and then the wing suits well).<br>
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The following picture is taken during Iraq invading Koweit : they are Mil Mi-8 helicopters.[[User:LVCDC|LVCDC]] 17 february 2013

Latest revision as of 19:04, 1 March 2013

Piper Arrow (Emanuelle)

Piper Arrow, also called the Cherokee Arrow. PA -28R. The paint scheme on this one looks mid-70s. JB

Bad Boys

I'm pretty sure the Helicopter is either an MD 500 or 600, could also be an MD900. Doc88888888 21:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Also the plane below with 4 engines (props missing), and front view might be a DC-4. Doc88888888 21:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Once again looking at the pictures, the first helicopter could be a Bell 206. Doc88888888 21:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

The Rocketeer

TRAVEL AIR MODEL R “MYSTERY SHIP” (FLYING REPLICA built c. 1971). 1935 HUGHES H-1 “WINGED BULLET” (REPLICA), a PROTOTYPE MODEL OF HUGHES HK-1 “SPRUCE GOOSE” (hanging) & 1931 PITCAIRN-CIERVA PCA-2 Autogyro.

Danger: Diabolik

A friend of mine who is into planes thinks Valmont's private plane is a Fokker 50. Anyone else? - Kooshmeister

Die Melodie der Welt

D-861 is a Dornier J "Wal" (whale) --Mm 14:16, 22 October 2011 (MDT)

Good find! Sixcyl 13:59, 2 November 2011 (MDT)

Thanks - but my Dad worked at Dornier for almost 35 years... :D --Mm 12:52, 5 January 2012 (MST)

Mata Hari

1st pic make me thinking of a Nieuport or a Sopwith. 2nd and 3rd, ressembles to an american Boeing or Curtiss, unfortunately I couldn't find any matching with this one Sixcyl 15:41, 8 February 2011 (MST)

The first pic is a Thomas Morse S4. A beautiful American plane, intended as scout in the late IWW but used as trainer. You could recognize she by the protruding "half cone" from behind the rounded cowling. --Madcamps 05:38, 3 November 2011 (MDT)


Good find! it's said that it was "designed by Englishman Benjamin D. Thomas (no relation) formerly of the Sopwith Aviation Company". I understand why I found it louking like a Sopwith. Thank's again for this info! Sixcyl 12:04, 3 November 2011 (MDT)

9/11: Press for Truth

The first three photos that were unidentified showed a Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II. I have updated the movie page and removed the unidentified photos.

The Avengers

The 1st picture is an Armstrong Whitworth A.W.660 Argosy.Sixcyl 17:01, 3 July 2011 (MDT)

Tokyo-ga

Thanks for the ID Bill-ay, of the 747-100. What tells you its a -100? Bthebest - IMPDb Administrator 02:15, 19 August 2011 (MDT)

Airwolf

"Unknown" Fighter Aircraft from episode 2.03 is a SEPECAT Jaguar. --Mm 15:19, 18 September 2011 (MDT)

Walker, Texas Ranger

Episode 3.10: BAe 146- / Avro RJ-Series - type had a name-change. The narrow distance of the engine (and the airbrake in the tail) give it away. --Mm 15:25, 18 September 2011 (MDT)

24 Measures

Aircraft is a Boeing 767-200. No way to tell the operator. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

A Decade to Remember: The 1950's

Image 2 is the Bell X-2 experimental supersonic aircraft. It was the immediate follow-on to the Bell X-1/X-1A and was the first aircraft to exceed Mach 2 in level flight. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Images 3-5 are of a US Navy K-Class Goodyear Airship (Blimp). --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Images 6-9 are of the ML Aviation Inflatable Wing Aircraft, designed in the 1950s for a US Military requirement for a "survival aircraft" able to get a downed pilot out of hostile territory. Other entrants included the somewhat more successful Goodyear Inflatable Airplane. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Images 10-11 are of a General Dynamics/Lockheed SM-65 Atlas ICBM. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Image 12 is of a Douglas PGM-17 Thor IRBM. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Image 13 is of a Lockheed LGM-25C Titan II ICBM. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Image of the carrier jet with the 23 under the cockpit is a McDonnell F2H Banshee. She was a carrier fighter-bomber operated by US Navy and the Canadian Navy. Parked Banshees can be seen in The Bridges at Toko-Ri movie --Madcamps 11:35, 2 November 2011 (MDT)

A Decade to Remember: The 1960's

Images 1 & 2 of a North American T-28B Trojan of the US Air Force. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Images 3-7 of General Dynamics/Lockheed SM-65 Atlas ICBM. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Image 8 of Raytheon MIM-23 Hawk Surface to Air Missile. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Aces: Iron Eagle III

Aircraft at far left is a North American F-86D "Dog" Sabre. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Aircraft in first picture is of a Republic F-84 Thunderstreak. Cannot determine variant due to lack of reference of wing and nose. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Airlifting: Now and Then

Foreground aircraft is a Douglas C-54 Skymaster. Background aircraft fully in frame are Short Tucano trainers of the RAF. --CAPFlyer 00:23, 20 September 2011 (CDT)

Background aircraft on far right is a Scottish Aviation Model 121, known in RAF service as the Bulldog T.1. --CAPFlyer 17:51, 21 September 2011 (CDT)

Bergerac

Aircraft is a Piper PA-32 Cherokee Six. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

Following Sean

Wingview of a Boeing 737-700/800/900. Can't tell beyond that as wing is the same. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)

From Here to Eternity

Images 1, 2, and 4 are of the SBD-1 Dauntless dive bomber of the US Navy. --CAPFlyer 16:22, 19 September 2011 (CDT)


Thank you very much for this big help CAPFlyer. Impressive is your knowledge! Sixcyl 16:34, 20 September 2011 (MDT)


Airwolf (TV Series)

Cessna 172 Skyhawk, Cessna 402, Cessna 210G and Sopth F.1 Camel replica.Sixcyl 13:58, 13 October 2011 (MDT)

World War I

Found the Gotha G.IV.Sixcyl 16:01, 26 October 2011 (MDT)

Iron Eagle IV

Percival Pembroke --Madcamps 11:43, 2 November 2011 (MDT)

Good find Madcamps! Sixcyl 13:47, 2 November 2011 (MDT)

The Story of Aviation

Image 12: Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2 (an early model) --Madcamps 12:01, 2 November 2011 (MDT)

Images 18 to 22: Beardmore Inflexible. A one-of-a-kind british bomber of the late twenties. Nevertheless her name, surely she was pretty flexible because the unusual high aspect ratio. --Madcamps 12:01, 2 November 2011 (MDT)


Thanks again for the help on these ones Madcamps. For the RAF B.E.2 , I did thought about it myself too, but the distance between the 2 seats doesn't match with the B.E.2E. So it might be a previous B.E.2C. Sixcyl 13:52, 2 November 2011 (MDT)

Altitude

First pictures shows Cessna 152. Pictures cancelle from this unidentified list of aircraft.Sixcyl 12:28, 3 November 2011 (MDT)


Many thanks to Christian who helped so much on some identifications in : The Saint Strikes back, Sous le signe du taureau, Singin'in the Rain, A Decade to remember, I tre aquilotti.Sixcyl 16:24, 29 November 2011 (MST)

Christian's contribution

Tremendous downsizing of the Unidentified aircraft list with the help of Christian. Good work!!!Sixcyl 01:02, 10 December 2011 (MST)

Airwolf (TV Series)

These 2 birds are highly modified - Hawker Sea Furies. The one in the back is very famous AirRacer "Dreadnought", reg NX20SF with Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major. Good to be back ;) RenoRacer 18:18, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

24 (TV Series)

Small jet is Gates Learjet Model 35. RenoRacer 18:57, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

Eagles

Ryan PT-22 Recruit

) Cheers RenoRacer 19
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Dragnet

Learjet 24 on the left and 35 with fans on the right. Cheers RenoRacer 19:40, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

Guns

Falcon XP Ultralight. cheers, RenoRacer 19:56, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

Hangar X

L29 is CX-LVN. Red Biplane is Pitts Special S2B (LV-RBW) and Yellow Experimental plane is One Design DR-107 (LV-X326). Yellow Biplane is Boeing Stearman Model 75 (LV-ZKU) and the white plane taken from the front is Lancair Super ES (CP-AD005). Ultralight with open cabin doors and red wings will be Rans S-12/14 Airaile (LV-UX048) Cheers. RenoRacer 21:12, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

Lost (TV Series)

The tail section indicates DC-8. Cheers, RenoRacer 22:48, 12 March 2012 (MDT)


I don't agree with you, I'm afraid. The windows shapes and density doesn't match at all with DC-8. This is rather wide body airliner, Boeing very likely.Sixcyl 00:17, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

You, re right Sixcyl, my bad. It has already been id, as wide body B777 of some fake airline. (Computer Generated) Greets, RenoRacer 00:34, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

NCIS (TV Series)

1st picture - LearJet 35/36 on runway. Picture with the coffin, S-3 Viking in the top right corner. Tail of C-130 - 99.9% C-130 Tango! Cheers, RenoRacer 00:13, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Oligarkh

Falcon 900. Cheers, RenoRacer 00:25, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Bergerac

Ep.3.08 Cessna 441 Conquest II, Cheers, RenoRacer 01:21, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Crime Traveller

Developed from Sopwith Camel - Sopwith Swallow, RenoRacer 14:33, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Deadly Encounter

Waco UPF-7, Cheers RenoRacer 16:35, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Kaijûtô no kessen: Gojira no musuko

modified horizontal stabs.. Lockheed P-2 Neptune (Kawasaki P-2J), RenoRacer 17:18, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Knight and Day

Bell Model 205, RenoRacer 17:22, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

La morte viene dallo spazio

1st picture is Titan I on launch pad. Atlas being launched on 2nd and 3rd picture. RenoRacer 17:39, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Magnum

Yellow Piper Cub, RenoRacer 18:06, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Mike Bassett: England Manager

767-200 no doubt. 9/11 deja-vu... RenoRacer 18:11, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Mr. Jones

1st unidentified is 757 and 2nd is Southwest 737 Classic >> 300, RenoRacer 18:21, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Sonda

NASA aircraft is Grumman 698.RenoRacer 17:11, 15 March 2012 (MDT)

That Was the Year: 1978

Tail rotor is of wrecked SA-330 Puma Helicopter. RenoRacer 17:33, 15 March 2012 (MDT)

Wysokie Loty

Aero 145, RenoRacer 18:11, 15 March 2012 (MDT)

That Was the Year: 1978

Wrecked plane is South African Atlas Impala Mk.II. RenoRacer 23:00, 19 March 2012 (MDT)

Midsomer Murders

Hawker Siddeley HS 125 and Piper Cherokee, RenoRacer 23:15, 19 March 2012 (MDT)

The International

If someone will help me verify this, I am quite certain the unidentified aircraft is in fact not CGI, but a Boeing 777. As seen in this photo I found from a google search of 777s landing,Triple 7 it appears to be exact. I was unable to find a comparable photo to reference with the first shot drumaboy590 0:17, 20 March 2012 (CST)


Agreed.Sixcyl 02:48, 24 March 2012 (MDT)

I do not agree on this one. 777 has a different fuselage in the back, more like square-shaped and not round with APU as pictured here. Triple7 has a 6 wheeled bogie, etc. RenoRacer 18:27, 31 March 2012 (MDT)

That Was the Year: 1978

Wreck with single rotor blade visble is South African AF Alouette III. All wrecks are from Namibian/Angolan conflict. RenoRacer 11:16, 21 March 2012 (MDT)

2012

Global Express 99.9%, RenoRacer 11:17, 21 March 2012 (MDT)

Sonda

helicopter model is Mi-10k and human powered airplane in last picture is Gossamer Albatross RenoRacer 18:09, 31 March 2012 (MDT)

Arne Dahl: Misterioso

Eurocopter AS332 Super Puma, RenoRacer 17:10, 11 April 2012 (MDT)

The Shoes of the Fisherman

That is not PeaceKeeper as suggested under the picture. That will be Naval Polaris Mk.3 or more precisely UGM-27C Polaris A3. RenoRacer 09:46, 19 April 2012 (MDT)

TheOrder (2001)

Fake wing. Model made for movie purposes.RenoRacer 06:37, 12 June 2012 (MDT)

2012

Bombardier Global Express, Cheers RenoRacer 06:38, 12 June 2012 (MDT)

Resident Evil: Afterlife

Look at http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/330470.html
Despite the C-GIID registration (instead of N-GIID), I think we have found the real aircraft disguise with a false tail number.
Bellanca 8KCAB, C/N: 1025-2006.

What about the yellow plane ?
Nearly the same thing...
??AKX could be this plane : http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/330466.html
With the canadian flag masked by a black touch.
If yes, it's a Zenair ZENITH CH200, C/N: A-53.

Please note that these two planes are based in Ontario.

The twin engine just behind the actress is a Beech 55 Baron, isn't it ?

LVCDC 22 june 2012

The New Avengers (1st picture)

Fuji FA-200-180AO Aero Subaru
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Fuji-FA-200-180AO-Aero/1610212/L/
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:FA200180AO.jpg

LVCDC 22 june 2012

Out for a Kill

Probably a Gulfstream III or IV. LVCDC 27 July 2012

Movie : Amelia

First unidentified aircraft could be a Bellanca Pacemaker

Aviateurs, 75 ans d'aventures

A75AZVA.jpg

The first man is Édouard Daladier who is well known for his flight to Munich at the end of september 1938, done with the Bloch 220 F-AOHJ but the karman visible is not from this plane.
Lockheed Model 14 Super Electra G-AFGN was then used by Chamberlain (but why 2 frenchmen are coming out from it ?). It could be too the Air France same type of aircraft used on other circumstances (and then the wing suits well).

The following picture is taken during Iraq invading Koweit : they are Mil Mi-8 helicopters.LVCDC 17 february 2013